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I’ve got a thing for nice guys.
see, with a former career in radio and having spent enough time in LA, I’ve met some famous people. I’ve also met some talented people. sometimes, they’re even both. but more often than not, they’re rarely famous, talented and genuinely nice.
John Wicks is all of those – his niceness will most likely mean he will never admit to being a big deal, but a quick look at his resume will tell you that he is, in fact, not just a drummer to the stars, but a star himself:
B.O.B., Bruno Mars, Cee Lo, Meshell Ndegeocello, Chocolate Genius Inc., Fitz & The Tantrums, RZA, David Byrne, George Clinton, Money Mark, Mike Watt, Heather Porcaro, Skerik, Sam Sparro, NASA, Gift Of Gab, Chali 2na, John Fruciante, Teddy Bears w/ Iggy Pop, Brandi Shearer, Cory Chisel, Donovan Frankenreiter, Jessie Baylin, Joshua Radin, Zack Hexum, Soccermom, and many more…
after a Tweet [ugh] about how happy I was that Fitz and The Tantrums brought back real music, he responded with a ‘thanks’ and I decided to exploit his kindness with a few messages back and forth in hopes of talking him into an interview.
he, obviously, agreed, and with no hesitation, taking a lot of time out to go back-and-forth with every one of my questions… and then some.
John Wicks is simply a great guy. he’s a talented guy. and he took the time to do this… in between playing at Daryl Hall’s house and showing up on Carson Daly.
enjoy.
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okay, first off, you’ve played with the most eclectic group of musicians imaginable… from Bruno Mars to GZA, David Bryne to George Clinton, Meshell Ndegeocello to Donovan Frankenreiter and many, many more. not asking you to pick a favorite here, but give us a few career highlights:
One of my main goals as a musician has always been to “speak without an accent” in as many styles of music as possible. I’ve been very blessed that these artists you mentioned and/or the producers I worked with on their records trusted me enough to be a part of their music. I have to say though, I record on a lot of artists’ records without ever having the pleasure of meeting them. Bruno Mars is an example of this. I co-wrote and played on a song called “The Other Side” that was originally intended for Cee Lo Green’s record but ended up on Bruno Mars record! That type of thing happens a lot these days.
Honestly, I have to say that recording Marc Anthony Thompson’s (aka Chocolate Genius Inc.) record “Swan Songs” earlier this year was definitely a career highlight and truly an honor. I have been such a fan of his music since his record “Black Music” came out in 1998. I actually kinda stalked him shortly after moving to LA seven years ago. He was doing a residency at Largo and I approached him with a disc containing Pro Tools session files of music that I had been working on with the hopes that he would just sing anything over them. Well he never did it because of some computer glitch, but I must have made some kind of impression on him because he checked out my Myspace page and dug what he heard enough to contact me from New York just to say hi and stay in touch. A few years went by and I got a call to do a couple of local casual gigs with him and then the record date! While tracking his record, I cried with joy and emotional overload just hearing his voice coming through the headphones. That realization of a dream was so powerful, and the joy of knowing that my playing and my musical decisions actually worked for his music still gives me so much satisfaction.
Doing that record also led to the opportunity to tour and play with Meshell. The guitarist on that Chocolate Genius record was Chris Bruce who has been playing with Meshell for quite some time, and he gave her my number. She has been a musical hero of mine for a long time. Earlier this year, because of high demand from her fans, she decided to re-visit the material on her record entitled “Bitter” which is a shared favorite of both my wife and I, so it was very special getting to do those songs with her in a very stripped down trio format. I learned a TON on this gig. Meshell and Chris are great teachers as well as beautiful human beings. It was another dream realized.
you mentioned finding your sound while attending Mardi Gras as a kid, but then later would work under Dave Coleman Sr., one of Billie Holidays guys, but still stick to sounding ‘southern’. what does a Southern Louisiana Jazz-understudy sound sound like?
My father was a Commander in the Navy. We moved around a lot during my early childhood and one place we were fortunate enough to live was New Orleans. My mother was extremely enthusiastic about music, jazz in particular. If there was music happening, my mom was there and she always had me in tow whether it was a jazz funeral, Mardi Gras, Preservation Hall, or whatever.  When we lived in Pensacola, Florida, we would hang outside of a black gospel church almost every Sunday just to hear the music. We felt like we would be looked at as impostors if we entered, until finally one Sunday, they just invited us in. It felt like we were floating a couple of feet off of the ground. All of these early experiences had a huge impact on me, and I’m so grateful to have lived in that part of the country during that time. When my dad retired from the Navy, we moved up to Bainbridge Island, WA. Even though we didn’t live in the South any longer, I always found myself unknowingly gravitating towards drummers from New Orleans. Most notably, Vernel Fournier. My mom and dad were huge fans of pianist Ahmad Jamal and had his record “Live At The Pershing” which really features Vernel. That was it. It had everything I wanted. Swing, funk, bounce, space, clarity, everything. It still blows my mind and inspires me on a daily basis. That is what I strive for, that level of groove, discipline, and musicality, no matter what style of music I’m playing.
now – to the present, over the past few years there’s been this Motown/soul/Stax Records revival of sorts and no one is doing that better than Fitz & The Tantrums, a band you’re drumming for. we all know what it’s like from down here, but what is it like day in/day out for you all? hang on, that sounded generic – what I’m trying to say is that based on the occasional shot we see of the crowd in the live shows, people seem to be having a genuinely good time as opposed to the previous shoe-gazer movement… if that makes sense?
Being from a jazz background, I’m used to usually playing for a couple of drunks at the bar and a bartender who is either preoccupied with a game on TV or is looking at us like we’ve got 5 heads or something. This is the first band I’ve been involved with where it has a broad appeal and an enormous amount of wind in it’s sails. It’s always a surprise when I look out and not only are people dancing like crazy, but they are singing all of the words as well!
As far as what it’s like day in and day out for us; In short we are all learning how to make this thing work smoothly with our personal lives which can be tough at the rapid rate that we are working. There are so many decisions to be made, and so many personal factors that come into play. The heat is really turned up on me as the only guy in the band with a wife, babies, and a mortgage. It is a juggling act especially when the work is out of town. I have to trust that the work I’m being asked to do is worth missing out on the experience of looking at my twin girls grow in front of my eyes.
It is really mind-blowing when I think of how fast this band has taken off. We played our first gig at Hotel Cafe in LA almost exactly 2 years ago. Since then we’ve been the support act for Flogging Molly, Maroon 5, and Sharon Jones & The Dap Kings playing dream venues like Red Rocks and college stadiums. We signed to a great label in Dangerbird, had our music placed in commercials and T.V. shows. I have to say though that the biggest thrill that happens now is witnessing the ever growing audience that we are connecting with, and it’s such a positive energy being mirrored back at us at every show. I’m still in disbelief. Especially since all of this has happened solely on word of mouth and the quality of the songs.
what’s in store for FATT? tours? new album? things must be insane right now…
You know, I kind of use my Google Alerts as a gauge of how crazy the buzz is and right now the buzz IS insane! I’m getting an alert every hour on the hour. We’ve made it on so many “Best of 2010″ lists, it just boggles my mind.
On January 12th we play on the Jimmy Kimmel show and then we leave the next day for a month long tour with only a couple of days off. It’s our first tour on a proper tour bus, and it’s our first extended tour as the headliner! We’re doing mostly East coast and Mid-West cities but it also marks our first entrance into Canada. I’m not stoked about the cold and the snow but at least this time we’ll have a professional driver and I can sleep.
We just started writing and recording for our next record a couple of weeks ago, which I’m really stoked about. I have an enormous collection of drums. Some beautiful and some serious Fat Albert meets Sanford and Son looking stuff. I’m using it all and getting some really great sounds and really making an effort to play some original, new grooves that are still super hooky and danceable.
you’ve also worked with Mickey Avalon, who seems to have caught onto that controversial self-promotional thing that has worked for so many before him – Marilyn Manson, Bowie, Lady Gaga, etc. what, in the world, is a former-addict/prostitute-cum-rapper like to work with? and better yet, what does Daddy tell the twin girls when he gets home from work?
You know, I’ve only met Mickey briefly at the Sundance Film Festival a couple of years ago. I was there with Money Mark and we played just before him. I had heard the stories about his health issues prior to meeting him or ever hearing his music. All I could think of that evening was that it was kind of sad that the crowd was really there to see the train wreck. Don’t get me wrong, they were singing along to his stuff so I think they dug the music but the vibe was just not a positive one. I’m a fan of all of the folks you mentioned in your question. I think Lady Gaga is a legitimate talent as is Marilyn Manson, and I can also tell that they are very intelligent people. Of course Bowie is just one of my faves of all time. I think they all are masters of pushing people’s buttons and being visually exciting but hopefully not letting it overshadow the music. I just wish Mickey could see that line, but if drugs are involved he’s not going to see anything. I originally co-wrote and played on a song that was intended for him, but he was dropped or put on hiatus from his label until he gets healthy so the song ended up with another artist. As for what I tell the girls, at one and a half they are too young to know what that all means. When they are old enough though, we’re gonna be living in the wilderness and I’m just gonna sit on my porch, polishing my shotgun waiting for potential suitors. Just kiddin’. Sort of.
give us a few highlights of a career that started from the day you picked up some drumsticks in the 3rd grade.
There are too many, so I’m just gonna run off the first few that come to mind.
1. Playing a festival in Holland with my high school jazz ensemble, I realized that you could see the world and play music. Never looked back.
2. Playing with and getting to know Money Mark. He’s a dear friend and a genius.
3. Playing with, recording with, and getting to know Marc Anthony Thompson aka Chocolate Genius.
4. Working with Cee Lo Green. I only wish he was allowed to put out the incredible, innovative songs that I have heard him invent.
4. Studying with Joe Hunt in Boston. He made me a better listener.
5. Playing with organist Joe Doria and guitarist Dan Heck in Seattle for years was a huge learning experience.
6. Teaching. I love doing it.
7. Buying a house, and paying off my car knowing that drums did it for me.
8. There was a night at The Echo where all of us in Fitz & The Tantrums collectively felt the tide shift in our favor. Folks were singing along, partying, sweating and we all felt this floaty high for a while when we got off of stage and just kinda stood wide-eyed asking “What just happened?!”
9. Before drums paid the rent, I had day jobs ranging from barista to working in a slaughter house in but one career highlight that I hold dear is that I never worked in a cubicle. I’m not knocking folks that do it, I just don’t think I’m built for it.
who are you listening to?
Again, too much to list here, so here are the CD’s strewn about in my car. Major Lazer, Obi Best, a lot of late 80′s/early 90′s New Jack Swing stuff, anything with James Gadson on drums, Cameo, Siouxie & The Banshees, Missing Persons, ELO, Divinyls, B-52′s, Deee Lite, ABC, and anything that came out of Sigma Sound Studios.
here’s a question I’ve never seemed to get the same answer to, no matter how many people I ask. best drummer of all time… Neal Peart? Keith Moon? Terry Bozzio? I once sat down at a pub in England with Roger Pope [of Elton John, Hall and Oats fame] and he puts Phil Collins up there in the Top 10 – say it ain’t so!
Stevie Wonder.
after seeing this, I might have to agree with you.
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